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Republican Nut Bryan Fischer – Jesus Would Support The Use of Torture – Video

That this man is even considered a leader in the Christian arena is in itself a travesty.

In recent writings, Bryan Fischer of The American Family Association, said that liberals “would drag the Bible’s heroes before the courts at Nuremberg and charge them with crimes against humanity” and suggesting on his radio program that Jesus would support the use of torture in a time of war.

Fischer argued on his radio program today that the Bible makes certain things permissible during times of war that would not be permissible during times of peace, adding that Jesus is a “warrior” who would probably approve of torture.

“Christianity is not a pacifist religion,” Fischer said. “The God that we serve is described in Exodus 15 as a ‘man of war.’ Now we often think of gentle Jesus, meek and mild, but let’s not forget, according to Romans 19:13, when he comes back … he will be riding a white horse and wearing his own robe, dipped in blood. That is a robe that is worn by a warrior who is inflicting casualties on the foe. So this is gentle Jesus, meek and mild; when we comes back, his robe is going to be dipped in blood because he too is a warrior”

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Jon Stewart On Dick Cheney’s Mind – It is “the scariest f**king place in the universe” – Video

To summarize, Stewart thanked George Bush for not dying in office during his administration, for fear of a Dick Cheney presidency.

Stewart dissected the Cheney interview on Sunday’s Meet The Press where the former vice president did cartwheels to avoid calling the so-called “enhanced interrogation” methods used by the CIA, torture. And according to the twisted mind of the Dick, torture was not waterboarding or force feeding someone through their rectum, like was authorized in his tenure as vice president, no, torture was what happened on September 11th when terrorists hijacked planes and attacked America. That view of torture caused Stewart to proclaim, “I see, that’s just what meets the definition of torture in his mind. His mind, I assume, being the scariest f**king place in the universe.”

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Dick Cheney on Torture – “I’d do it again in a minute!” – Video

Former Vice President and brains of the George Bush Administration went on MSNBC’s Meet The Press today and admitted that he is as selfless a man as we thought he was. Asked about the torture report and the s0-called “enhanced interrogation tactics” used by the CIA during the Bush administration, Dick Cheney offered no regrets but said that if given the chance to torture gain, he would “do it again in a minute!”

And although he threw George Bush under the bus earlier in the week saying that the President knew about the torture tactics being used, Cheney doubled down on that claim again today, saying,”This man knew what we were doing,” he said. “He authorized it. He approved it.”

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Dick Cheney – George Bush “was an integral part of the [torture] program”

Yes, Cheney threw George Bush under the bus with his recent revelation in a Fox interview, when he said that the former president knew all the gory details of their torture program.

Fox News anchor Bret Baier asked the former vice president whether the agency deliberately kept Bush in the dark about its so-called enhanced interrogation techniques.

“Not true. Didn’t happen,” Cheney responded. “Read his book, he talks about it extensively in his memoirs. He was in fact an integral part of the program, he had to approve it before we went forward with it.”

Asked if there was ever a point where he knew more about the CIA’s activity than the President, Cheney said “I think he knew everything he needed to know and wanted to know about the program.”

Baier then asked if the former President knew about the “details” of the program. The report — which Cheney called “full of crap” — described brutal interrogation methods including waterboarding, extensive sleep deprivation, threats to harm detainees’ families and “rectal feeding.”

“I think he knew certainly the techniques, we did discuss the techniques,” Cheney said. “There was no effort on our part to keep him from that.”

“The notion that the committee’s trying to peddle, that somehow the agency was operating on a rogue basis, and we weren’t being told or the President wasn’t being told, is just a flat out lie,” he later added.

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Whoopi Golberg – “I Don’t Know How I Feel” About Torture – Video

While I agree with Mrs. Whoopi on many issues, this one in particular is a no-brainer. I know how I feel about torture and the so-called, “enhanced interrogation” methods the CIA used to “get information” from suspected terrorists. I am totally against it! We are supposed to be better than that. ‘American Exceptionalism,’ remember?

On Wednesday’s episode of The View however, Goldberg tried to explain her confusion.

“I don’t know how I feel about it,” she said one day after Senate Democrats released a report detailing extensive abuses, “Because on one hand, I do know there are other countries that have done it, and it’s reaped quite good benefits for them. I don’t know if that’s what we’re supposed to be doing. But I’m not surprised that other countries that we’ve gone over to and pointed the finger at, are now pointing the finger at us.”

Rosie O’Donnell responded that President Ronald Reagan took part in “banning” torture, via the Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment. “So this is not a partisan issue,” she said. “This is an issue of national security and identity.”

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In The Bush/Cheney Whitehouse, The Torture was Brutal

The brutality of the CIA’s torture program under the leadership and direction of George Bush and Dick Cheney is quite frankly, terrifying.

Interrogations that lasted for days on end. Detainees forced to stand on broken legs, or go 180 hours in a row without sleep. A prison so cold, one suspect essentially froze to death. The Senate Intelligence Committee is finally releasing its review of the CIA’s detention and interrogation programs. And it is brutal.

Here are some of the most gruesome moments of detainee abuse from a summary of the report, obtained by The Daily Beast:

The CIA has previously said that only three detainees were ever waterboarded: Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zabaydah, and Abd Al Rahim al-Nashiri. But records uncovered by the Senate Intelligence Committee suggest there may have been more than three subjects. The Senate report describes a photograph of a “well worn” waterboard, surrounded by buckets of water, at a detention site where the CIA has claimed it never subjected a detainee to this procedure. In a meeting with the CIA in 2013, the agency was not able to explain the presence of this waterboard.

Contrary to CIA’s description to the Department of Justice, the Senate report says that the waterboarding was physically harmful, leading to convulsions and vomiting. During one session, detainee Abu Zabaydah became “completely unresponsive with bubbles rising through his open full mouth.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was waterboarded at least 183 times, which the Senate report describes as escalating into a “series of near drownings.”

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Christian Conservatives Blasting Sarah Palin for Insane Waterboarding Speech

Finally, The veil has been lifted and the conservative media is beginning to see what the liberals have seen from day one – that Sarah Palin, the quitter from Alaska, is a selfish loser who will do or say anything to further her name with a particular group.

What brought this realization to these people was Palin’s recent NRA soeech, where she foolishly compared waterboarding and baptism.

In the highly pitch shriek – or speech if that’s what you wanna call it – Palin said;

“Oh, but you can’t offend them, can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.”

And understandably, Christians should be outraged! Baptism is not a political ploy. It is not something you invoke to further your politics in front of a certain group. It is a sacred belief based deep in the Christian foundation, and Palin’s Ill-advised association with waterboarding was truly sacrilegious.

But don’t just take my word on it,  I’m just a liberal. Here’s an example of what the conservatives are saying.

From The American Conservative.

Man, the 12 minute speech Sarah Palin gave to the NRA convention is awful. It’s just witless, red-meat blathering, delivered in that nasal whine of hers that makes it sound like she’s chewing wads of tinfoil. For people who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they like.

Fast-forward in the video to the 6:30 mark, though, and listen to what she says about terrorists. It’s part of a long harangue about lily-livered liberals, delivered in such a way that makes Archie Bunker sound like Cicero. Money quote:

“Oh, but you can’t offend them, can’t make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen. Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we baptize terrorists.”

OK, stop. Not only is this woman, putatively a Christian, praising torture, but she is comparing it to a holy sacrament of the Christian faith. It’s disgusting — but even more disgusting, those NRA members, many of whom are no doubt Christians, cheered wildly for her.

I’m with my Lutheran pal Mollie Hemingway on this. Excerpt:

I’ve long defended Palin against the offensive treatment she’s received at the hands of a blatantly biased media, a media that collectively lost its mind the moment she entered the national stage. But that hardly means she must be defended at all times. … This is a perfect example not just of civil religion but also how civil religion harms the church. Civil religion is that folk religion that serves to further advance the cause of the state.

Palin and all those who cheered her sacrilegious jibe ought to be ashamed of themselves. For us Christians, baptism is the entry into new life. Palin invoked it to celebrate torture.

Here’s the video.

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John McCain Agrees With President Obama – “Waterboarding Is Torture”

If there is anyone who qualifies to speak on whether or not waterboarding is torture, it’s John McCain. The 2008 Republican presidential nominee was a prisoner of war in North Vietnam from 1967 to 1973, and was subjected to many methods of torture by his captors.

One can only imagine his horror as his fellow Republicans – Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain – answered a question about waterboarding and torture. Asked whether waterboarding was torture, both Bachmann and Cain said it wasn’t, and  that in fact torture would be part of their administration if they were to be  elected as president.

Mr. McCain had this to say about his comrades and their preference for waterboarding, which is the act of making the victim feel as if they are being drowned.

The Arizona lawmaker—who was tortured himself while a prisoner of war in Vietnam — said the controversial practice was both illegal and ineffective on Monday evening.

“Very disappointed by statements at SC GOP debate supporting waterboarding,” he tweeted. “Waterboarding is torture.”

McCain, who ran for President in 2008, elaborated on CNN later, arguing, “If you put enough physical pain on somebody, they will tell you whatever they think that you want to hear in order for the pain to stop.”

But don’t take McCain’s word on this, he’s only had to suffer 6 years of torture. Listen to Michele Looney Toons Bachmann and Herman Pizza Man Cain. Yeah, they know what constitutes torture.

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President Obama Disagrees With Republicans – “Waterboarding Is Torture”

Two of the Republicans who claim they’ve gotten a message from God to run for President, said in the last debate that they believed that waterboarding is not torture. Michele Bachmann and Herman Cain then went on to say that they would reinstate the practice if they won the presidency in 2012.

God cannot be happy with these two!…

Asked how he felt about what Bachmann and Cain said, President Obama responded that the two were “wrong,” about waterboarding. The President reiterated that the  practice was indeed “torture,” and stated that the use of it diminished the moral stance of the United States.

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If God Told Them To Run For President, Why Are They Willing To Torture?

Herman Cain on Saturday said that God told him to run for president. He then compared himself to Moses when Moses questioned God’s will. Herman Cain said that he too questioned God, asking “You’ve got the wrong man, Lord. Are you sure?”

“I prayed and prayed and prayed,” Cain told a group of young Republicans in Atlanta, according to National Journal. “I’m a man of faith, I had to do a lot of praying for this one, more praying than I’d ever done before in my life. And when I finally realized that it was God saying that this is what I needed to do, I was like Moses. ‘You’ve got the wrong man, Lord. Are you sure?'”

And what about Michele Bachmann?

Bachmann originally said that God told her to run for Congress, and she later said that her decision to run for president was based on a “calling” that she said, was “tugging”on her heart.

“Well, every decision that I make, I pray about, as does my husband, and I can tell you, yes, I’ve had that calling and that tugging on my heart that this is the right thing to do.”

But what’s absolutely amazing, is that these two people who claim that God told them to run for president, are the very same two willing to torture America’s enemies if they become president.

In last night’s debate – yes, the second debate this week – Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann responded to a question about torture, and whether they would continue the Bush administration’s torture policies in reference to waterboarding. Cain went first, saying that he believes waterboarding is “enhanced interrogation” and he will gladly reinstate it. Bachmann then followed up saying that torture would be part of her administration.

I’m left wondering if they’re sure they heard the voice of God telling them to run for president. Torturing, as far as I can tell, seems to be the handiwork of the devil. Maybe Bahcmann and Cain should check their messenger again.

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Gitmo Prison Called “The Most Expensive Prison On Earth!”

Where are all the Republicans and Conservatives now? They argued and they picketed over the issue of over-spending in Washington, but when it comes to the expenditures that the Bush Administration racked regarding Gitmo Prison on Guantanamo Bay, the Conservatives are curiously missing in action.

A report claims that for each prisoner housed at Gitmo,  American taxpayers dole out $800,000.00 a year!

Guards get combat pay, just like troops in Afghanistan, without the risk of being blown up. Some commanders get to bring their families to this war-on-terror deployment. And each captive gets $38.45 worth of food a day.

The Pentagon detention center that started out in January 2002 as a collection of crude open-air cells guarded by Marines in a muddy tent city is today arguably the most expensive prison on earth, costing taxpayers $800,000 annually for each of the 171 captives by Obama administration reckoning.

That’s more than 30 times the cost of keeping a captive on U.S. soil.

It’s still funded as an open-ended battlefield necessity, although the last prisoner arrived in March 2008. But it functions more like a gated community in an American suburb than a forward-operating base in one of Afghanistan’s violent provinces.

Congress, charged now with cutting $1.5 trillion from the budget by Christmas, provided $139 million to operate the center last year, and has made every effort to keep it open — even as a former deputy commander of the detention center calls it “expensive” and “inefficient.”

Not only is Gitmo “expensive” and “inefficient,” it is also one of the main reasons America has lost its reputation of a just and fair nation around the world. When pictures of the tortured and mistreated detainees surfaced, our perceived moral superiority in the world faded, and the pictures were used by terrorists to foster more hate against the United States.

You will be correct to assume that this wasteful money vacuüm called Gitmo, would be the foundation for the Teaparty/Republicans/Conservatives, rallying cry against unnecessary government spending. But they, of course, could not substantiate that  arguement.

If Gitmo was the brainchild of a Democratic president and this same report surfaced, the Teaparty would have chartered boats, swam, anything and everything possible to get their members to the Cuban island. They would have shown up carrying misspelled signs calling attention to the wasteful spending of the Federal government.

This would have been covered by Fox News, and the ridiculously high amount of money spent every year since 2002 on the small amount of prisoners, would have been the viral talking point of every personality on the Fake News agency. But Gitmo is not the brainchild of a Democratic president, it is the creation of a Republican president, and that is where the so-called Conservatives draw their line determining which type of administration  gets their approval for “government spending.”

If its done by a Republican, then it’s okay. Republicans call it “necessary spending” –  a valiant effort to keep the nation safe. But no matter how they try to spin it, $800,000.00 per prisoner is insanity, and if anyone is really concerned about government spending, it will make sense to close this prison and use these funds in a more productive way, like say – here in America.

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Rick Santorum Questions John McCain’s Torture Claims

Republican Presidential hopeful Rick Santorum has one for John McCain, telling a radio show host on Tuesday that Mr. McCain, a man who was a documented, tortured, prisoner of war for 5 years, “doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works.”

Mr. Santorum was referring to an op-ed written by John McCain, in which Mr. McCain stated that the capture and killing of Osama Bin Laden had nothing to do with enhanced interrogation or water-boarding. In the op-ed, Senator McCain states that after talking to CIA Director Leon Pinetta, he was under the impression that “none of the three detainees who were water­boarded pro­vided Abu Ahmed’s real name, his where­abouts or an accu­rate descrip­tion of his role in al-Qaeda.”

Santorum said on the show;

“Everything I’ve read shows that we would not have gotten this information as to who this man was if it had not been for information from people who were subject to enhanced interrogation, and so this idea that we didn’t ask that question while Khalid Sheikh Mohammed was being water-boarded, he doesn’t understand how enhanced interrogation works. I mean, you break somebody, and after they’re broken, they become cooperative.”

Personally, I think it’s a rather strange coincidence that Santorum used the word “broken” in describing the point where enhance interrogation or torture begins producing information. And even stranger is the fact that he used the word in trying to dispute Senator McCain’s op-ed.

It is common knowledge that John McCain suffered many broken bones in his arms and legs from the events in 1968 that lead to his capture as a prisoner of war and his bout with torture.  And even today, the effects of those events can still be seen in the limited movements of Mr. McCain.

If Santorum is correct with his “broken” claim, then we must wonder exactly what information did John McCain give while he was being broken. Maybe Mr. Santorum knows something we don’t.

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